Not even YouTube co-founder was fan of removing dislike counter, looks like it’s back

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YouTube video announcing removal of dislike counter

They are smoking the strong stuff over at YouTube HQ. For some reason they came out and announced they would be removing the dislike counter on videos. They said we would still be able to dislike videos, just that we wouldn’t be able to tell how many other people had disliked it too. Only the video uploader would see that count.

The internet’s response to this crazy change was not what they expected. Every single person on earth hated it, none more than me I’d like to think. Or they knew we would respond this way but figured we’d get used to it soon enough, like they said in the announcement. They do have a $good$ reason for it after all.

It was fun though to see the video announcing the change get a healthy dose of dislikes, sitting at 179K dislikes and 15K likes as I write this. Yours truly is proud to announce that one of those dislikes is mine. I just had to sneak one in before they took our voice.

Why does everyone hate the change?

The dislike button and counter is part of what makes YouTube great. YouTube co-founder, Jawed Karim, perfectly summed up why that was a bad move.

Calling the removal of dislikes a good thing for creators cannot be done without conflict by someone holding the title of “YouTube’s Creator Liaison”. We know this because there exists not a single YouTube Creator who thinks removing dislikes is a good idea — for YouTube or for Creators.

Why would YouTube make this universally disliked change? There is a reason, but it’s not a good one, and not one that will be publicly disclosed. Instead, there will be references to various studies. Studies that apparently contradict the common sense of every YouTuber.

The ability to easily and quickly identify bad content is an essential feature of a user-generated content platform. Why? Because not all user-generated content is good. It can’t be. In fact, most of it is not good. And that’s OK. The idea was never that all content is good. The idea WAS, however, that among the flood of content, there are great creations waiting to be exposed. And for that to happen, the stuff that’s not great has to fall by the side as quickly as possible.

The process works, and there’s a name for it: the wisdom of the crowds. The process breaks when the platform interferes with it. Then, the platform invariably declines. Does YouTube want to become a place where everything is mediocre? Because nothing can be great if nothing is bad.

What’s the reason that won’t be publicly disclosed?

Officially they said research, testing and consideration had revealed that the counter had to go. All to protect creators and stop the dislike-bombing trolls in their tracks and so promote “respectful interactions between viewers and creators.” Yep, that’s the SJW pandering reason given.

Of course, some were quick to point out that YouTube themselves have the most disliked video on the platform, the 2018 YouTube Rewind video. Could it be that the 19 million dislikes (one of them mine) hurt their feelings so badly they were like, ‘never again will we give them that power to hurt us?’ It’s not the main reason but it probably didn’t help.

The main reason has everything to do with YouTube making more money if some particular videos could spread out without a terrible like/dislike ratio hampering their traction. Those are the videos YouTube is paid to actively promote. 

You will have noted that independent creators perform better than the huge media companies on YouTube. That doesn’t sit well with the huge corporations getting spankings from some teenager in his mother’s basement. So they have been promoting their stuff on YouTube but we are not about that and so we make it known through the dislike button and stop any momentum from building. Stephen Cobert is not what we are looking for.

Now almost all promoted content/adverts that are shoved in front of people’s faces get the same treatment. That’s not good for YouTube because these advertising firms pay according to the eyeballs they get. Hence the motive for YouTube to make it hard for us to discourage each other from watching ads disguised as content. Too bad it messes up our experience on the platform.

The outrage looks to have worked. YouTube repented? 

The change is/was rolling out slowly and so not every video had the counter missing. I, like many others, noticed that for some channels that had gotten the treatment, the dislike counter has returned. 

YouTube has not officially announced that they are scrapping the bad move but it looks like that might be the case. Those of us who use YouTube for educational purposes really hope that’s the case. Why would we want a move that makes it hard to know if a video is a waste of time. So go out and dislike the announcement of this crazy move, help make it clear we won’t stand for it.

Below are my receipts. I do watch a lot of YouTube, some might say a little too much. Hence why I’m passionate about this.

Screenshot of my YouTube watch time.
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  1. YouTubeless

    Linus from Linus techtips managed to get a meeting scheduled with a product team member over this. I think he, the other big creators and users in general’s reaction may have given them cause for pause… For now.
    If they insist on dislikes going, I think they should just promote the feature they already have that removes BOTH likes and dislikes. After all, likes are pretty much meaningless on their own as an instant feedback and assessment tool.

    1. Leonard Sengere

      Right on. What use is a like counter if there is no dislike one? Every video will seem good. The 2018 YouTube Rewind video for example has 3 million likes, if you don’t also see the 19 million likes you’d get the wrong impression about people’s reception of it.

      It was cool to see popular creators react in video form and condemn the move and so it’s going to be hard for YouTube to stay on this course. Can’t pretend to be protecting creators when they say they don’t need protecting.

      1. Mabhena

        But honestly a dislike button is not a good metric if you think about it.

  2. V For Vendetta

    They removed it because Joe Biden a.k.a Let’s Go Brandon was trending in the dislike department.Liberals love dishing out the punches,but do not like taking punches.Democrats were throwing tantrums because of the dislikes.President Donald Trump was right abouth this cockroaches.

    1. Brandon

      Wow dude, too much Fox News for you. Ween yourself off for a couple of days and you may be able to think clearly again.

    2. Onnie

      100% correct!

  3. Mabhena

    Kudos to you Techzim for writing a thousand word article about a freaking button. I am sure there are interesting things happening in Zimbabwe e.g. what the hell is that scam artist Chikumbutso upto these days? Did you know that he has (had?) a website for his company that claimed the HIT VC as a board member?

  4. Mudine

    If YouTube removes the dislike counter, I think youtube will be useless as ever……. Cause you are note able to differentiate the bad and good videos……….

  5. BEIT

    What good is good if there’s no bad?

  6. Azealia

    A like and Dislike buttons, they express how one feels about a certain video. So removing one causes an unbalanced application.

  7. YouTubeless

    After all is said and done I just want to state for the record, YouTube with no dislikes sucks!

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